Cuil Launches – Good for Discovery and Surprises, Bad for Search

Svetlana Gladkova,


Cuil search engine logoYesterday evening a new search engine was launched by a group of search experts (including two ex-Googlers) - Cuil is the name and the blogosphere is abuzz about weather it will kill Google. Honestly, I can never understand why we constantly expect every single new product to kill something that is strong in the particular niche already. Normally I hate that type of post titles - they sound to me like BMW is a Mercedes killer. And that makes me doubt the products even more usually - when startups fail to come up with something unique, they often choose a path of "We will kill Google".

But people still seem to be determined that a startup that has ex-Googlers on board and $33 million in funding has great chances of killing the most mainstream search engine of all. So why do some people hope that Cuil has good chances in the search field?

First of all, they launch with a very substantial index of their own - and 120 billion IS substantial, even if we compare it to Google's recently reported trillion. We may be optimistic about the index size but Techcrunch has already proved that Google beats Cuil in the number of search results, at least.

Another factor is the huge search-related experience of Cuil founders. But I strongly doubt the fact that if you know how Google operates from inside, you can actually create something better of your own.

Another difference is the way Cuil handles pages indexing and search queries - their process is better scalable and cheaper than what Google has. Unfortunately, these processes are not visible to users - and for scalability to start to matter, the first step should be reaching a significant market share.

What does make a difference is Cuil's approach to indexing web pages and categorizing them - using the relations between key words on this or that page, Cuil categorizes them to make search process easier and more comprehensive (or at least this is what they claim). Thus, if a user gets the results for a search query that are far from comprehensive, he is offered to explore the results further based on the proposed categories. But my experience with Cuil described below shows that keyword-rich pages can be far from relevant as well.

The only thing that any user will be sure to notice immediately is the totally new approach to interface - unlike in any traditional search engines where results are displayed as a list of links in line, Cuil offers a two-column or three-column interface (triggered by a user) that looks a little cluttered to me. I am not sure if it is supposed to appeal to users better but I am sure that this levels the weight of the pages in the first 10 of the output - to a certain extent at least. But what I find immediately appealing is that Cuil makes the results look better to users by adding images to the results whenever it is possible - obviously people notice visual content better so this could be a huge plus, especially for the websites where Cuil can find images for.

There is no doubt that some of the most advanced users will also see Cuil's approach to users' privacy as important and advantageous - Cuil promises never to store users' IPs so no search query can be related to any particular computer in the world. Given the latest concerns of privacy and how Google handles it, it may be a significant advantage for Cuil, especially when it comes to early adopters. The problem is I don't think that a real mainstream audience actually knows that they should care about their privacy and that Google has problems with keeping private things private.

But all of the above is mainly related to how the company described itself and its new search engine. Now that Cuil is live I wanted to see it in action myself. So to see what Cuil has to offer, I have performed a search for "web 2.0".

Cuil search results for web 2.0

You know, it is hard not to fall in love with a search engine that puts Profy on the first page of search results for this rather popular search term - along with links to a number of events (Web 2.0 Summit and Web 2.0 Expo in Berlin - by the way, no idea why Berlin instead of a bigger one in San Francisco or the main site for all the Web 2.0 Expo events), the Wikipedia entry for Web 2.0 and some other blogs and directories focused on web 2.0.

But you can't fail to notice some faults immediately - for example, while Cuil returns 6,200,000 results for "web 2.0", Google is definitely more abundant with its 449,000,000 - that's 72 times more on Google. Of course, that does not mean that Google's results are more relevant and to prove that Cuil offers a number of categories to browse for more results, including News Aggregators, Semantic Web, and Buzzword (sure, we have needed someone to offer us a broad collection of buzzwords).

Out of curiosity I have clicked one of the proposed related categories - that one happened to be Google Reader. Unfortunately, it failed to produce any results at all:

Cuil search results for web 2.0 Google Reader

So don't tell me they have more pages indexed than Google - I will not believe it until I see the same 23 million results for "web 2.0 google reader". But what surprises me here is that they suggest a category to the user that contains zero results in it. Would not it be wiser to only offer things that people can find something in?

Nevertheless, I continued clicking some of the other categories and they did offer some results for the categories - but, to tell you the truth, some of the results were truly unexpected. For example, the search on "web 2.0 semantic web" returned a CV on the personal site of Carlo Torniani that was very rich in the key words but was hardly relevant.

So my general impression is that the results sorted out by keyword richness are actually not that reliable - and if I launch a blog with the words "semantic web" repeated 10 times in every post I will probably do very good on Cuil. But the problem is that not everyone will agree that such results are actually relevant - and I think we will have to stick to tried and true Google's page rank that will at least guarantee that some people find the content on the resulting page useful to them.

And this is why I think that Cuil may have a great potential - but not as a search engine. Sure, it is different than Google, it has a visual appeal of some kind and it does determine keyword-rich pages very well. But different does not mean better - these factors do not seem to provide actually relevant results. So if you want to find useful information that many other people rely on, you'll be better off sticking to Google. But if you are looking for something really unexpected that you would never have stumbled upon otherwise - welcome to Cuil and browse some of the categories, you may be astonished about what type of content they can offer. But don't expect relevancy here - expect surprises.


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  • Learn correct english…..the word usage is whether, in the first sentence……not weather.

  • Bill, thank you very much for the correction. I’ve been trying to learn the correct English for the last 17 years but this has always been my typical mistake. Do you have anything to say on the subject of the post itself?

  • @Svetlana - Interesting first impressions - nice to see Cuil being put to the test after hearing the buzz about it all day. I like the idea of this maybe serving as a useful addition to Google rather than a replacement for it. As you say, the Google-Killer monicker is a tired one, anyway. I expect the Cuil team were prepared for it, though, and in many ways might have encouraged the comparison.

    I quite like the magazine style three column layout, it saves my scrolling finger a little effort. I can see how it could look a little crowded though.

    @Bill Hyder - is that the best you can do? That’s the sort of typo/error that that anyone might make when putting a post together, so go back to your troll cave and come back when you can write a better post in Russian. Oh, and by the way, for future reference the grammatically correct use of elipses is “…” not “….” or “…..” and as Write.com might educate you:

    “Punctuation [elipses and elides]:

    “The elipse is possibly the single most overused punctuation mark by amateur (and many professional!) writers. The elipse is represented by three periods (or “pips”) in a row (”…”). It is NEVER less than three or more than three. It is ALWAYS three.

    An elipse is used to indicate an incomplete thought, and takes the place of a period. It should NEVER be used to represent a pause! If you wish to indicate a pause, a comma, semi-colon, or colon should be used instead. Generally, gramatically complete sentences should not end in an elipse. Only sentence fragments (those sentences which do not possess a subject, verb, and object) should end in an elipse.”

  • Played around with this new toy and again a few moments ago. Earlier this morning, the Cuil search engine choked when linking numerous search terms together. Literally it gave an error message on search phrases such as “last will and testament”. That’s ridiculous and means the thing is not ready for prime time. Hours later, and the anomaly has lessened but not disappeared. For instance, “pllc operating agreement” produces zero results in Cuil but thousands of results in Google and Yahoo search. I like the way Cuil displays the results and its speed but the system needs work.

  • @Bill Hyder, @Michal Pick

    GUYS, GUYS, in future, would you please pass both your comments in draft by me or any other proofreader before you post anything? I could have spared you the embarrassment of writing ‘elipse’ instead of ‘ellipse’ and ‘english’ instead of ‘English’.
    Oh, and that quote from Write.com even has ‘gramatically’ instead of ‘grammatically’.

    Now I’ll go and read Svetlana’s review.

  • @Marjolein - busted. I will certainly make use of your proofreading services, as soon as you learn to spell “Michael”

  • @Joe Raymond: Yes, it is visible that the new toy is not ready for the prime time - and after trying it out I don’t understand why they are so proud about not adding beta to the logo. Do they really think it can be widely adopted from day 1? I highly doubt that position and by the way speed was very low for me today - not sure if it is because of the load or because of me doing searches from Russia which is far from their data centers.

    @Michael: Thanks for stopping by and for such a passionate comment, I appreciate your support a lot. It is possible that Cuil could be an interesting addition to Google - but mainly to see where webmasters are best in putting keywords everywhere on the page, not to actually find something relevant.

    As for my spelling (to both Michael and Marjolein), I do feel it is an issue with the blogosphere - we all tend to try to publish our posts as fast as we can without doing proper spell checking and additional proof-reading. It is a very huge problem for non-native English bloggers but I think everyone should realize that a blog post can rarely be perfect and some people still deserve attention even to their not perfect English (I’m not talking about myself here but there are many examples that I think I should gather in a special post). And I do believe that when a person has nothing to say but point to a typo, he is not actually a reader - he should be considered a troll and ignored. So I think this is the approach I will stick to in the future.

  • Want to hear something funny about Cuil? When I googled my name, I found one of my old articles about tetanus shots and guess what picture it appeared with- A guy with a gun!

    Another 33 million down the drain I guess.

  • I searched myself on Cuil and got the usual reviews of my books but nothing from any of my blogs which are far more relevant, recent content associated with my name.
    The problem here is that they aren’t breaking new ground in any meaningful way. I remember when I first used Google- it simply worked and made all the other search options seem clumsy. This doesn’t do anything close to that.
    I think integrating social media into search is going to be huge. Our tools does it but it’s really an analysis tool not a search engine. Of course if anyone wants to invest $33 million I think we can get there…

  • @Dr. Nishi Viswanathen, @Martin Eric: Yes, the poor relevancy of the results does make many bloggers think that it’s another $33 million wasted for something no one will ever actually use. And that’s a huge problem: money can buy servers and pay good engineers, but if you use a dubious algorithm, you’d better have it actually working and giving better results if you want the product to actually take off.

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